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Dr. Shah:
I’m here to welcome, um, Isaiah, who is the founder and CEO of men. And for those of you who don’t know about men, it is an awesome recovery tool, um, which we’re going to talk about in great detail. We’re going to dive in deep. So we can just kind of find all the details of how this came about. Men is a life science company that was based in New York city that is researching how nutrition and natural compounds can be utilized to enhance outcomes in healthcare, which by the way, is the hottest topic in medicine, nutraceuticals healing from plants and botanicals prior to starting mend. Isaiah had senior executive roles in strategy and innovation for Deloitte and Citibank. And it’s worked in venture capital in multiple technology. Startups. Isaiah is deeply passionate about all things related to health and wellness. Um, and I know firsthand from dealing with patients who needed to have an emergency case of men that, um, Isaiah is not just innovator. And he’s an awesome, I’ll say an awesome dude because, uh, he’s come through for us and many of our patients and I’m super honored to, um, I think this is the first time I’ve actually seen you face to face other than email.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Cool.
Dr. Shah:
So, um, uh, let’s kind of start talking about it and, um, uh, how did, how did men come about and why did you start men?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah. So thank you. Well, first of all, thanks for having me, Dr. Shaw, it’s been an honor to work with you and a leader and a thinker in the space in every day that I meet with surgeons like yourself, who are beginning to recognize the value of nutritional intervention in surgery. It validates my original reason for starting this. And this goes to a really personal experience that I had going back three, four years ago, where I had a stress fracture from running and the stress fracture was very slow to heal. So typically the healing time for a stress fracture is anywhere from six to eight weeks. In my case, I was in a boot for well over 10 weeks and being an athletic person that likes to be active and out there running. Um, for me, it was just like the prison sentence. I was absolutely frustrated.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
And the response from my surgeon, whether there’s not a whole lot, you can do that. The healing was going to take its course and that you really just had to wait it out. And on my way, home from that particular meeting with my podiatrist, um, that didn’t resonate with me. I started to ponder and wonder whether I was nutritionally compromised or deficient, and that was compromising my healing. So the first thing I did when I went home was I Googled nutrition for healing. And the very first article that came up was from hospital for special surgery. For those who don’t know it, it’s the perennial leader in orthopedics, the one of the most prestigious hospitals in the country. And it was actually called nutrition for healing. And it talked about the very critical role nutrition plays, uh, when one is injured or having surgery. So the body’s in a higher metabolic state, it’s gone through a stress it’s working harder to, to heal.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
There is an increased risk of wound infection, your overall fatigue, all of these things raise the body’s nutritional needs beyond the baseline level of requirements or whatever your baseline is imagined in a, in a traumatized state. You need much more than that. And the science has shown that we are actually on the whole nutritionally deficient. So there was a study done by the journal nutrition recently of 16,000 Americans. And I think it, it was called over fed and under nourished. And there’s a documentary actually on this topic as well. So we think just because we’re eating three or four or five meals a day we’re well-nourished that they couldn’t be further from the truth. And that’s why we have a high obesity rates. And in this particular study, they show that, you know, as it relates to some very key nutrients, we’re all deficient. And so if you combine those two factors, the fact that our nutritional needs go up during surgery and the fact that we are nutritionally deficient, this hasn’t been a big gap at Madison.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
I suspect that’s why you’ve said at the outset, this is becoming one of the hottest topics. It’s one of the key modifiable factors that we know now through the science that Mendez doing and others are doing, we can actually change to create better patient outcomes. So that’s how it came to me. My mother had cancer, uh, 10 years ago and I saw beat up. She was by the chemo, nobody talked to her about nutritional optimization. My brother fell from an 80 foot cliff. He’s a physical therapist and had to running his own business. He had eight surgeries, nobody talked to him about nutritional optimization. And I’m thrilled that doctors like yourselves are really starting to recognize the value of this and placing it where it belongs in medicine.
Dr. Shah:
Yeah. So I think that, um, all of those things you kind of hit on, it’s usually that personal story that kind of, uh, changes things around and it really kind of makes us kind of, uh, you kind of become a thought leader in that. Um, so, um, interesting. So some of the ingredients, I kind of want to dive in deep into mend itself and talk about some of the ingredients that are in there and, um, maybe go like one by one and talk about them. Um, and then we’ll kind of talk about what’s the best way for patients to use men and what should they be using for different procedures other than cosmetic and kind of dive in. Okay. So, uh, let’s talk about collagen. Um, so, um, you know, there’s, there’s some things on the market where people sometimes will take what’s. I just get arnica rumbling for some reason, my experience with patients using arnica and rumbling is not been as successful, but when they use mend, um, before I dive into that, um, when they use men, there’s like remarkable difference in how they heal.
Dr. Shah:
And that’s why I want to dive in deep to the ingredients and how you came up with them because, um, I’ll share an anecdote. I had a patient who bruised and bled with everything before I touched her. And she said that I cannot be treated. I cannot have anything done. Um, because I’m going to bruise, I’m going to be swollen for four weeks, five weeks. Um, everyone talks to me that I bleed like a, uh, I guess, uh, a stuck pig or something like that. We know. And, and so, um, we did our procedure. Um, we used men before and I said, let’s just try this out. This is kind of when I was first using, getting used to men, um, uh, she used men, we did the procedure that facelift, she may be lost five drops of blood. And I was just like, wow, is this the same patient? She had all the classic signs of someone who bled red hair. These, they bleed a little bit more other things. And her healing was actually kind of like pretty non eventful and she was just amazed. Um, so I was like, wow, there’s something, there’s something going on in here. So, um, so let’s, let’s dive in a little deep. Okay. So, um, hydrolyzed collagen, um, it’s on there. Uh, what is the college and doing for our patients? Um, why is it
Dr. Eziah Syed:
So first, first of all, I mean, maybe you start with sort of philosophically, um, you know, our approach and what we do to develop the formulation. So we always start with the subject matter experts, uh, in a particular problem domain and talk to them about what problem they’re trying to solve. So for example, when we think about orthopedics and we go to talk to somebody, that’s an ACL reconstruction surgeon, we say, what problem are you seeing in that population? And one of the things that we hear in ACL reconstructions is we see a lot of significant muscle atrophy and the presence of muscle atrophy can persist for years or the delays return to function. So we know that’s the problem to be solved. And then we work with our science board and we’ve been very deliberate about developing a diverse science board with immunologists, with dieticians, with natural paths, so that we can come at the problem from a multiple different angles to look at diverse ideas on how we solve that problem.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
So as it relates to, um, uh, you know, men cosmetic in particular, um, we, we formed a board of cosmetic surgeons who are noteworthy in their fields. It’s like, just like you are. And one in particular has actually even written a book on the topic and are critical. Um, you know, uh, nutrition is for healing, cosmetic surgery and partnering with our science bar. We went at the problems. So what are the common things that, you know, patients in cosmetic surgery are looking for? It’s a very unlike orthopedic surgery way and may where it may be living beneath your pants, right? So you can’t really see it. It’s very over in it’s in your face. And it’s very visible. So patients want to heal fast. Uh, they want to limit bruising. They want to limit inflammation. And if they’re doing the procedure in the first place, because they’re trying to fix something, so they want to get the best results possible.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
So we ha we look at the problem, we map it out, see what are the things that we’re trying to achieve. And where is the science? Where, where do we know that there are quality published, randomized trials and peer reviewed journals pointing to certain compounds and nutrients that can do the job. We don’t put anything in our product, unless it philosophically aligns with the fact that we want to be a natural product. We don’t want to have anything artificial in there, but we also want to have nutrients in there that have strong science and a strong support behind them. So when you talk about patients, and by the way, the anecdote that you shared is something we’re hearing commonly. We had a cosmetic surgeon that reached out to us and said the last 10 rhinoplasty patients that he’s performed a surgery on, he’s seen literally no bruising and he’s blown away by it because typically his rhinoplasty patients got a lot of bruising.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
So we look at the problem holistically. So what are some of the things you need? Do you need glutamine in your system because your body’s been through a lot of shock. If you’re just doing an article in a hydrolyzed collagen solution, you’re not going to get the benefits of a glutamine, which is going to address the shock to your body. Similarly, our organism has shown just similar benefits in terms of its ability to address, um, the, uh, the immune immune impacts to, uh, to your system. Zinc is a wound healing agent. So when you look at these nutrients in combination, uh, and we know that your body needs elevated levels of those, I think that’s perhaps the reason you’re seeing overall better response to healing versus just taking article out. Um, it’s a solution that’s more comprehensive addressing all of the key nutrients that we know your body is deficient in a needs, what it’s going through, the healing process,
Dr. Shah:
Which makes sense. I think when, um, when you work out, you have to kind of like, if you don’t eat the proper things afterwards, uh, you’re not going to recover properly. And if surgery is like working out times a hundred or a thousand, it seems like we would want to take the right supplements then. Um, so which makes sense to me that collagen protein complex glutamine are Janine. These are kind of building blocks to kind of facilitate healing. Is that correct?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
That’s absolutely correct. So collagen, as we know, is, is critical or maintaining healthy skin joint blood into, and just the integrity of the vessel walls. Um, there, there are many things we don’t know about it, but there are some research pointing to its role in increased bone and cartilage health. So, um, when you take collagen combined with some of the BCAs amino acids and the protein, we know there’s tissue, healing, healing benefits to that. So that’s what we try to do is we look at which nutrients have the really strong, foundational research that, that will help to solve some of these, these key challenges.
Dr. Shah:
Um, and some of, some of the other things that are in there that I’m kind of impressed with, like vitamin a, um, I think it’s, uh, um, with skin and with bone and, and formation, that’s, that’s a nice element in there. Um, why was that in court? I think it’s a nice thought. I don’t think anyone else has vitamin a and vitamin C in there.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah. So we also look at, you know, how some of these nutrients work together because that’s critical. So getting, getting nutrients that are, that are complimentary to each other, so by the may, supplementation has been shown to improve, you know, colleges is synthesizing cross-linking. So when you look at college and college and, and how that works with vitamin, and that’s one of the reasons we have that, you know, that nutrient in there and the other benefits include, uh, inhibition, uh, you know, just, uh, just loon healing, uh, facial wound healing. And, um, and, uh, uh, there’s, there’s study, I’m just reading this here now in front of me, um, vitamin a supplementation of twenty-five thousand IQ before and after some selective surgeries is usually recommended. And, um, for the most, for the most part, it’s really looking at how a nutrient combines and works with another nutrient versus working in isolation by itself.
Dr. Shah:
Uh, so I think it’s interesting that all these things kind of in complex together, so it’s not just, um, you know, arnica, Bromley, I think it’s this combination of, of things together, which makes it such a powerful agent, uh, for patients to take, um, is there a best practice? So for patients someone’s going to have a procedure done, when should they begin? How often should they take this? And then when should they end?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah, I mean, so, you know, ideally we want to get you nutritionally optimized as soon as soon as possible. Um, but we know that that’s not always practical, uh, depending on when you’re visiting with your doctor or when the surgery is scheduled. We typically typically recommend that you start, um, to take men or take your whatever nutritional optimization strategy, or you’re pursuing at least one week pre-surgery and continue through the acute phase, which typically lasts at least six weeks. So you continue to support your body with nutritional optimization during, during that, during that period. So one week pre pre six weeks post, and it all depends on the individual’s nutritional status. Um, but generally what we’ve seen in clinical studies and clinical trials is beginning as early as one week pre pre-surgery and, uh, continuing as little as two weeks posts, but I feel like six weeks posts that does the job.
Dr. Shah:
And anecdotally, do you notice any difference from people because you have probably a larger database of obviously other patients using men? Do you notice a difference in people using it three weeks, four weeks prior versus one week prior? Or is it more important to use it longer posts? Uh, or it’s kind of individualized that
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Most of the surgeons we speak to, um, will, will suggest that minimum there they’re recommending the patients take at six weeks post, but adherence is always a challenge because particularly with, you know, something like cosmetic surgery, where as soon as you see the inflammation go down and you’re like, or the bruising go down, you’re like, well, do I really need this anymore? Um, and so, you know, if, if, uh, patients feel confident that the, that, you know, they’ve gotten the results in three weeks post, and that then that’s great, but we think the, the really the healing process and the body’s nutritional needs continue well past that. And we would recommend at least a six weeks post intervention.
Dr. Shah:
Now some of our patients are taking supplements already. Um, are there any supplements that, you know, that would be kind of like not work well with men or think they should avoid?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
No. I mean, these are all really safe nutrients. Uh, they’re all well studied. Uh, there are no known contraindications, no known, um, uh, you know, reactions or, uh, you know, challenges with it. Now, having said that there, maybe for example, if you’re already taking a college and you may need to stop taking that during, during
Dr. Shah:
The period where you’re taking men, because it already serves the needs for the college, and if you’re taking vitamin C, perhaps you don’t need to take that, but there’s nothing in the product that we would say, you know, if you’re taking another supplement would be unsafe to take with men because you’re only taking it during that acute period. So this is not a prolonged strategy, uh, where you’re taking men for that long period. And, and that’s the advice we give our patients is if you’re taking other supplements, just stop them. Cause you don’t need them. And you want all your attention to be focused on, on what men’s going to do for you. And that way we know what’s going into your system, it’s going to be pure. And then afterwards you can kind of resume things that you probably did
Dr. Eziah Syed:
If that’s the right advice.
Dr. Shah:
Um, is there any person, uh, who should not use men? Is there a, is there any sort of medical conditions that, um, w we haven’t found one, but I’m not sure if there’s anyone out there.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah, but I think going back to my comment, um, it’s, it’s a very safe product. Uh, but we, we like to err on the side of caution. So we generally say that nursing mothers should avoid taking the product and, and, you know, folks under the age of 18, just because there aren’t, there isn’t sufficient clinical data. And in the form of clinical trials in these populations that we would feel comfortable saying that it’s safe, but generally it’s a very safe product. And we don’t think that, you know, folks with certain health conditions we’ll, uh, we’ll we’ll have any,
Dr. Shah:
And I’m guessing the cosmetic market for nursing mothers and pregnant mothers is going to be pretty low anyways. Hopefully
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Pretty low. Yeah, that’s exactly
Dr. Shah:
Right. Um, so if someone is coming in for, um, let’s say they’re coming in for a joint replacement, um, could they use the men cosmetic or should they use the, should they use the proper men for them? So if an, um, for example, one of the people in my office, um, he actually set up the video call, Rob, he’s having, um, uh, something with his niece. I’m not an orthopedic surgeon. Um, could he use our men cosmetic or sort of dial things back and say, let me just get you on men, orthopedic or men regenerate or men, uh, joint replacement. Um,
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah, it’s a good question again, I think it goes back to the specific problem we’re trying to solve. So for example, we’re working on a product that’s specific to concussions and TBI and there’s specific, um, challenges as it relates to CNS damage and, uh, neurological damage that their, their, their nutrients and there’s research that shows that certain compounds will actually be neuroprotective and are repairative neurogenerative. Now we wouldn’t tell those patients to take cosmetic because it has none of those nutrients in it. So we’re, we’re, we’re targeting very well. One of the things that’s, I think unique about our company is rather than look to have a broad based system wide solution. That’s just a protein shake that gets your calories up and protein up. We’re looking at very specific targeted solutions. And so in the case of the knee patient, if they’re having an ACL or they’re having joint replacement, we know muscle atrophy is going to be a significant concern and we have a separate solution for that.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
So we would recommend that now we do have regenerate as a product that we, we generally recommend as a post, as a lifestyle product, because, um, uh, the combination of nutrients and the set of health benefits that that product provides. Um, so we call it 33 nutrients for peak health, and it’s designed for muscle health. It’s designed for, um, uh, gut health, it’s designed for cardiovascular health and so on and so forth. So it’s just a fantastic once a day product. And that’s something that everyone can go to. But during the acute phase, we have very, very targeted solutions that solve very, very specific.
Dr. Shah:
And that was ex my next question, because a lot of my patients who take men liked the way they feel with it, which sounds like, and so they were like, what can I do on a daily basis? So I think the regenerate is new, correct?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
It’s it’s, so it’s relatively new to one anti-ageing part of the year. And it is now utilized by, even though we developed it for medicine is to utilize by 30 plus pro sports teams utilized by the special forces of the U S military for performance. Uh, we think it’s one of a kind in the industry as a once a day product. Um, and, uh, you know, we continue to hear feedback from folks from a wide range of audiences, from everyone, from retirees to elite athletes that are taking that product daily and experiencing benefits. We’ve converted many, many of, you know, a person that, um, that’s in the, in the field of medicine, uh, to taking that product. Um, it’s, it’s just outstanding. And yeah, we would recommend that after you get off of cosmetic and you, you know, you’re, the job of healing has done that if you want a once a day wellness product, that regenerate is probably the right product product product to take.
Dr. Shah:
And if we can dive in a couple of those ingredients on there that I’m sure. Um, so a big fan of MCT MCTs are really, um, a hot topic right now. Um, so, uh, love that, uh, in there. Um, what type of MCT do you have in, in, uh, regenerate? Do you know the specific type off the top of that?
Dr. Eziah Syed:
I don’t know, off the top of my head, to be honest, I a shot I have to I’d have to, you know, get in touch with either the lab or the science board to get, get to specifically on the type of MCT.
Dr. Shah:
Um, so some of the other things in there you have a green tea extract we’re serving trial, um, co-eds grape seed extract. I mean, these are all fantastic products. Creotine which I’m a big fan of creatine because especially as we get older, um, uh, we lose muscle mass and it’s a way of kind of holding onto that muscle mass. Um, so all great things to, um, having a daily supplement and rather than taking 20 supplements, which is what most of us do take one supplement that does kind of everything for you.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Well, so, so to that point, so the reason we develop regenerate was we had many patients coming into an orthopedic environment that were old and showing, uh, chunk cruelty. Uh, they were at risk for sarcopenia, which is aging related muscle loss for those who are listening to the podcast, that don’t know what that is by the time we turn, uh, in our thirties, we generally start to lose muscle mass and they can accelerate. And, you know, over the course of decades, you can lose five to 10% of your muscle mass. And when we get into our elder years, if we don’t take care of that, that leads to frailty. And it’s a very insidious path that we find ourselves down where frailty leads to just loss of basic, you know, quality of life, basic ability to do things. So sarcopenia is something we want to get on top of early.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
And all the latest science is showing that really we can through a nutritional intervention and having a more active lifestyle, we can actually reverse sarcopenia. So regenerate was developed for that. So it was developed to address aging related muscle loss. So when you see some of the nutrients in there, like a glutamine, like a creatine, like an HMB, these are all the trends that have been shown through a number of clinical trials to address the muscle needs that we’re trying to address. And then we’ve added things to optimize the, the ability of the body to absorb these nutrients. So for example, one of the nutrients that we have in there is called the antigen and what it has shown through clinical trial study. And it’s a patent patented enzyme is to break down those amino acids to make them more bioavailable. So they get into the bloodstream better.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
And so that’s one of the key challenges that we try to address when we’re, you know, getting older is to get, get the nutrients into the body. So there’s, there’s a lot in that product to help us address muscle health. And then we thought, wait, if this is, you know, this is an elder audience, shouldn’t we also put into this product. So, but the other things we’re taking off the shelf that we know are anti-aging providing anti-aging health benefits, like the green tea extract, like the cake grape seed extract, like the reservoir trawl, like the co Q 10, these are all very well established, new trends. So to your point, instead of going to a store and spending hundreds of dollars on these other nutrients, we created a product that works together. The nutrients are complimentary it’s optimized, and you’re spending $60 for something that lasts a month versus a hundred dollars to take several, several samples of separate supplements.
Dr. Shah:
Um, some of the, um, um, one of the reasons I also think men Nazi because it has all this kind of complex ingredients that works together is the fact, um, do you think the fact that it’s kind of more likely to be absorbed if it’s kind of in a, it’s in a powder and it’s kind of mixed and it’s in a liquid versus just taking a pill? Um, I think they’ve done some absorption studies on just pills alone and it’s lot less absorbed than people think versus I think when it’s in a nutrient format, like it in more of like a, a drink and it’s powder and it’s dissolved over such a period, I feel like you’re going to absorb more from a common sense, Stan, 10 point, then just taking a pill to, or any of that.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Well, yes. And the, the big problem with pills is, you know, the average pill at the, at the extreme end can have 1.5 grams of product, right? So if you think about that in a single serving of men, you’re getting 30 grams of nutrients, you would need to take 15 pills, get the equivalent. So a lot of these, these pills that are offering, supposedly offering these benefits just simply do not have the necessary quantity of the right nutrients to provide the benefits that they claim. So that’s something that I would ask your audience and listeners to be very, very careful about is the products that they’re picking up off the shelf. Do they have the right quantities of the right nutrients to actually provide the help and many pills do not. And then further to your point, when you take a glass of men in a smoothie or a shake with your dinner, you’re just optimizing absorption, and that’s going to add to the benefit of the product. Yes.
Dr. Shah:
So when you deal with some patients of ours are really taste diverse. So are there any, any tips to say, Hey, here’s men, and here’s the best way if you’re super taste diverse, um, the best way to mix it, some kind of tips on that.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah. So what I, so one of the things that we tell patients is we, as a company have always opted for efficacy is our number one goal. And so we always start with a science, the right level and quantity of the right nutrients. Um, and then we are a natural company, so we don’t put artificial. And so one of the areas we have by frankly, compromises on taste. And so you’ll have other products out there that tastes better, but then they have nowhere near the right level of nutrients or quantity, and they’re using all kinds of artificial fillers and other things to make it taste great. So what we’ve done is that will be natural. We’ll have the right level of the right nutrients, but then we’ll ask our patients to blend it into a smoothie and we will help them with that, with that process so they can make it taste real great. So we hired a chef and he’s developed a number of recipes that can very easy to make. Like, for example, something as simple as blending it with a banana and peanut butter, it can be very tasty. So we’re constantly publishing these and we would ask your listeners to go to our website, men.me. And there’s a, there’s a tab there for recipes. They can email us directly at info, men.me, and we’ll be happy to send recipes that, um, that make the product really enjoyable and say, okay,
Dr. Shah:
Uh, actually my standpoint is I’ve taken men and I actually didn’t mind the way it tasted, but I mixed it with my smoothie. And, um, so I didn’t notice any tastes with it and I’m used to taking supplements and all that. And, um, I did it before my hair procedure. Um, so again, my story is I normally bruise, uh, easily. Uh, so I was really worried about my downtime with having a hair transplant. So I was going to do it. I did it on a Friday and the first thing they noticed in mind is actually all live it’s on Instagram, it’s on my websites. You can actually see what there’s really not much bleeding at all. And again, is that me, my normal, natural state? I don’t think so. Um, so I was super enhanced.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah. I’m about to do the exact thing and about, uh, actually, uh, on the 17th and I’m going to do exactly what you did. I’m gonna start taking my mend probably a week and a half before my procedure. And I’m going to film the whole thing. I’m happy to share that with your, uh, with your listeners and viewers, and we can see how my healing goes, but I can tell you now having heard your story so many times from so many people that this is not, um, something in your head, this is not placebo. This is really happening. The science is there. We’ve done enough. Randomized trials now looked at enough clinical data, nutritional optimization with the right key nutrients. And he has a healing. That’s the bottom line. It works. This is not meth. This is, this is a real deal.
Dr. Shah:
Perfect. Well, I think, uh, in that recovery profile in the year 2019, um, you know, all of our patients should be thinking about it. They want to recover and recover fast and recover the right way. Um, they should, they should do it the right way, which I think has meant. Um, so, um, amazing product. I’ve used it myself. I’ve used it with my patients and, um, love it. Um, any, uh, last kind of note here, um, um, where do you see, uh, men going in, in the future? Where do you see the future of aesthetics going? Um,
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Yeah. Thank you. Well, first of all, again, thank you for having us. And we think this is an important topic. One of the articles that we recently published is what we call changing nice to Reiser or sorry, rice to nicer, my apologies, well adage, and that we’ve perhaps heard in high school, which is, you know, when you’re injured, you want to put rice or rest ice compression elevation. And that’s kind of what supports healing we think the, the missing letter has been and which is nutrition. So we’re changing the acronym to nicer, which is nutrition first. Um, I freshen rests elevation, and we think that’s the future. And I can tell you, having now spent the better part of a year being in major hospitals across the country, talking to, um, the, the leading orthopedic surgeons, the leading this at the other. Uh, you’re absolutely right at the beginning of this podcast that, um, nutrition is a very hot topic. The science is now there, it’s established, this is a cornerstone and foundation of healing. And we hope that, you know, more and more cosmetic practices would recognize this and incorporate it because it’s the right thing to do for patients. And it’s going to create better outcomes and better, better patients.
Dr. Shah:
Amazing. Um, I might steal that acronym. That’s an awesome one and so much information. Cool. Thanks so much.
Dr. Eziah Syed:
Thank you, Dr. Sean. Appreciate you having us.
